In a podcast interview on Sea Control for the Center for International Maritime Security, Bryan Clark and Tim Walton discuss their recent report and what the future of the U.S. Navy.

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This photograph shows a Dassault Rafale aircraft parked on the tarmac of the French Air and Space Force Luxeuil-Saint-Sauveur Airbase in Saint-Sauveur, France, on March 18, 2025. (Ludovic Marin/AFP via Getty Images)